Nice work David. Here’s my question for you as it seems more and more likely the longer this goes on. The Royals have so many pitchers…..and what if they don’t play a full season…..again. We’ve said throw out 2020 because of the pandemic. And nothing has been normal the last few years with a real possibility of not being normal again this year. They have so many pitchers which is great, but also they need to take steps forward and need the innings to do so. I don’t really have a good or bad with it. I think it is interesting they may get to the point of moving one of the young pitchers without really getting a normal few years to see. At the same point, they should know based on having them in the system who they feel confident in with going forward. It just gets harder to say yeah but, if the results don’t end up coming this year because right now the only normal is that their isn’t a normal. Lol
That's a legitimate fear and one I share with you. The upside is that while the 40-man pitchers may not get a full season, everyone not on there still will at least, so that's a plus. Of course, most of the big names have already been added to the 40-man, so I don't know how big of an upside that is. Yeah, basically what I'm saying is that it really sucks.
I've been thinking about this lately as well. My thoughts have been broken down in two ways.
1. Those who need to be traded to open up space on the field for someone else. Santana, Minor, Dozier, Mondesi, Gallagher etc.
2. Trades that are specifically for team improvement. This would most likely require the trade to include some of the long list of young prospect pitchers you mentioned, Lopez, Melendez, Pratto, Pasquantino and anybody else not named Perez. If another team offers their best outfield prospect or a #1 starter under contract or control, it may take a little pain to acquire them.
Yep, I actually almost divided it that way too. So I can definitely see that. I sort of regret not including Lopez because when I was writing, I didn't see much of a chance, but he could be a deadline mover actually.
I am getting increasingly aggravated with the labor deal crap, I can't get very excited thinking about the season. I can't understand why they won't get together in the same city in the same room and stay there until they get something worked out. I really don't care who gets what. I just want a season. I love baseball, I have loved baseball for 65 years. I just don't get it! Thanks David for letting me gripe.
Unlike you, I will not be going to Phoenix unless they start playing Spring Training games on 2/26, or within a week after that. Too bad for the first time I was ever going :( . The possibility of that still happening likely seems like your chances of trading one of our starting young pitchers, no better than 10% at this point. I cannot help thinking that being the wealthy billionaire owners sadly only makes you more greedy, instead of generous (though I think our owner may be (hopefully ?) more like our new women's soccer team owners seem to be, genuinely concerned to treat the players fairly, but may just need to bide his time until more of these greedy guys pass on and their families sell. My sympathies go to the millionaire players but, even more so, to those who do not even sniff a million per year until they end their six years of slave labor.
Here is hoping that our "picking the right players to play and keep" department is going to be just as good as our "getting players to hit, at least in the minor leagues" department has seemed to become (though it would be good if they could add Seuly to that successful group this year and solve our RF problem for years to come).
And here is hoping that the proverb "a fool and his money are soon parted" (Proverbs 21:20) does not apply to the Royals this year, that they are very intentional about giving our guys the chance to play and prove themselves, even if it takes a while. Here is hoping that the injury prevention department can do just as good of a job with Mondesi as they did with Cain, and that he turns out to be our best player, or in a close race with Witt for MVP of the league, and on a more consistent basis.
And, finally, here is hoping that the lunkhead owners and their lunkhead commissioner do not ruin this entire season, or even a big part of it, and that the players get reasonably close to getting their true value, including in the early years, and that the minor leagues do not get further cut unless this is actually a great idea to have the colleges be more of the minor leagues (like in football and basketball) so that we can still see our favorite developing players at either the local college or local minor league park.
I agree that some of the young pitchers will get moved. It would be nice if we could get some outfielders. I saw the kid we got from San Diego in Triple A last year. He looked like he could put together a solid at bat. I think he just loses focus while in the outfield.
I don't think they'll trade him, but Scott Barlow is definitely someone they should be making available simply because relievers have a short shelf life and there should be a good amount of interest.
Nice work David. Here’s my question for you as it seems more and more likely the longer this goes on. The Royals have so many pitchers…..and what if they don’t play a full season…..again. We’ve said throw out 2020 because of the pandemic. And nothing has been normal the last few years with a real possibility of not being normal again this year. They have so many pitchers which is great, but also they need to take steps forward and need the innings to do so. I don’t really have a good or bad with it. I think it is interesting they may get to the point of moving one of the young pitchers without really getting a normal few years to see. At the same point, they should know based on having them in the system who they feel confident in with going forward. It just gets harder to say yeah but, if the results don’t end up coming this year because right now the only normal is that their isn’t a normal. Lol
That's a legitimate fear and one I share with you. The upside is that while the 40-man pitchers may not get a full season, everyone not on there still will at least, so that's a plus. Of course, most of the big names have already been added to the 40-man, so I don't know how big of an upside that is. Yeah, basically what I'm saying is that it really sucks.
I've been thinking about this lately as well. My thoughts have been broken down in two ways.
1. Those who need to be traded to open up space on the field for someone else. Santana, Minor, Dozier, Mondesi, Gallagher etc.
2. Trades that are specifically for team improvement. This would most likely require the trade to include some of the long list of young prospect pitchers you mentioned, Lopez, Melendez, Pratto, Pasquantino and anybody else not named Perez. If another team offers their best outfield prospect or a #1 starter under contract or control, it may take a little pain to acquire them.
Yep, I actually almost divided it that way too. So I can definitely see that. I sort of regret not including Lopez because when I was writing, I didn't see much of a chance, but he could be a deadline mover actually.
I am getting increasingly aggravated with the labor deal crap, I can't get very excited thinking about the season. I can't understand why they won't get together in the same city in the same room and stay there until they get something worked out. I really don't care who gets what. I just want a season. I love baseball, I have loved baseball for 65 years. I just don't get it! Thanks David for letting me gripe.
Unlike you, I will not be going to Phoenix unless they start playing Spring Training games on 2/26, or within a week after that. Too bad for the first time I was ever going :( . The possibility of that still happening likely seems like your chances of trading one of our starting young pitchers, no better than 10% at this point. I cannot help thinking that being the wealthy billionaire owners sadly only makes you more greedy, instead of generous (though I think our owner may be (hopefully ?) more like our new women's soccer team owners seem to be, genuinely concerned to treat the players fairly, but may just need to bide his time until more of these greedy guys pass on and their families sell. My sympathies go to the millionaire players but, even more so, to those who do not even sniff a million per year until they end their six years of slave labor.
Here is hoping that our "picking the right players to play and keep" department is going to be just as good as our "getting players to hit, at least in the minor leagues" department has seemed to become (though it would be good if they could add Seuly to that successful group this year and solve our RF problem for years to come).
And here is hoping that the proverb "a fool and his money are soon parted" (Proverbs 21:20) does not apply to the Royals this year, that they are very intentional about giving our guys the chance to play and prove themselves, even if it takes a while. Here is hoping that the injury prevention department can do just as good of a job with Mondesi as they did with Cain, and that he turns out to be our best player, or in a close race with Witt for MVP of the league, and on a more consistent basis.
And, finally, here is hoping that the lunkhead owners and their lunkhead commissioner do not ruin this entire season, or even a big part of it, and that the players get reasonably close to getting their true value, including in the early years, and that the minor leagues do not get further cut unless this is actually a great idea to have the colleges be more of the minor leagues (like in football and basketball) so that we can still see our favorite developing players at either the local college or local minor league park.
I agree that some of the young pitchers will get moved. It would be nice if we could get some outfielders. I saw the kid we got from San Diego in Triple A last year. He looked like he could put together a solid at bat. I think he just loses focus while in the outfield.
Olivares was obviously the kid I meant.
I don't think they'll trade him, but Scott Barlow is definitely someone they should be making available simply because relievers have a short shelf life and there should be a good amount of interest.