The Royals have played better in the second half and it's helped to create the offseason blueprint. Plus, the stadiums were revealed and the Royals head to Seattle.
You’re 100% right that to get the pieces we really need Melendez. It’s one for the offseason I’m sure. But your article today goes into it a little bit even. They need more talent. Plain and simple. Yes, it is entirely possible they get some guys from the far to contribute…but it doesn’t appear like the high end talent is coming up right now because it all graduated. So the big pieces to get better back are really Singer, Perez, Melendez in my eyes. How much you can get back for those three is a big key in or if you move them. But they certainly need some creative ways to get more talent back yet.
I don’t love the “competitive” spin on things but I get it. The broadcast needs something to talk about and technically it is true. I just think it can be a little misleading when they are still on pace as a 64 win team with the winning percentage the second half. But as you pointed out, its with no bullpen. I guess I’m just meh on it but you do have to start somewhere. So I guess that is good.
My thought on the "competitive" games is that it's all about context. Why are they competitive? In this case, it's because they're scoring runs, particularly late, pitching well enough in the early innings (they're middle of the pack in starter ERA since the break and have the fourth lowest walk rate) and having to endure stressful late innings every single night. How likely is that to be fixed? Among year-over-year changes, bullpens are the easiest. Easiest doesn't mean there's any sort of guarantee, but if your biggest issue is the bullpen, that's the one spot that you feel like you can fix in a single offseason. Again, I'm not saying they're a bullpen away from competing for a playoff spot, though the AL Central helps, but it's part of the conversation at least.
But they need to be smart. I'm fully convinced Salvy is going to the White Sox if the Dayton Moore rumors are true. Okay, so go get Jake Eder or Nick Nastrini and others, but get Gregory Santos too. Send Melendez to the Marlins. Get back whatever prospects you want and get Andrew Nardi too. You know the names don't really matter here, but that's the idea behind it. Add in a big league bullpen arm to these deals to put new guys with McMillon, Hernandez, Cox, a free agent signing and suddenly you feel a lot better. I don't know. It just feels like there's a path to 75-78 wins, even if it's not the likeliest path.
What are these DM rumors? I don’t understand the White Sox and it frustrates me we aren’t as good as them. Lol. Why were they ever interested in Salvy to begin with? I get Grafol, but come on…why are you trading for a 33 year old catcher even if you cut his 20m salary in half? White Sox man. Miami I get, Sox never really understood that one.
I never got it either and I still don't get it from a team standpoint, but if they have Dayton and Grifol? It's over. I haven't heard anything from anyone on it, but I was really good at connecting the dots as a kid and I think that skill carries over.
Is DM really that sought after a commodity? I don’t get it. He had a good run, I’m not saying he didn’t but a little bit of research and reading between the lines on owners comments even this year should scare anyone off.
This is actually quite fascinating if it happens. I’m not sure I’ve seen something like it.
You have one team, who fired him, basically kept everyone else, and is saying it’s all DM’s fault. If the White Sox hire him after not even a year, you have a IN DIVISION team basically saying, we don’t think it is all his fault, we need him to run this ship.
All I know, we better be the team that is right. Lol. Wow, that’s crazy.
Why DM? It looks like Chris Gets [edit: Getz - thanks autocorrect) is going to be promoted before the end of the season, and it's believed he would bring in his old friend DM to join him. Here's a pretty good summary from The Athletic on Wednesday:
"In the Sox’s press release that included a Reinsdorf statement, they hinted that it would be an internal (or familiar) hire when they noted that they expected this “single decision-maker to lead the baseball operations department” to be “in place by the end of the season.”
That doesn’t leave a lot of time for interviews. So it’ll likely be Getz, who is generally well liked and could conceivably do a fine job shaking things up but hasn’t really accomplished anything to deserve this job besides being here."
Had not heard the rumors of DM to the White Sox. That seems really strange to me. I am old enough that I will probably never go to a game in the new stadium, but just from the two videos I much prefer the look of the Clay County stadium .Too bad the teams won't build their own stadiums though. There is not a lot good talent on the free agent market this winter, is there? Maybe they can sneak out of Seattle with one game!!!!
I've only seen it from Bob Nightengale, so take it with a grain of salt, but apparently he and Chris Getz are still extremely close, so if Getz is promoted to GM, it sort of adds up I guess.
> I also think it’s important to stress that these are renderings and I was told by someone who I think is in the know that you shouldn’t spend too much time nitpicking each individual detail. A lot can change with that.
Sure, but later when they unveil the final drawings and it has no crown vision and one measly fountain they tell us that it's too late.
Raise a fuss now! This is a cheap and soulless design for a stadium.
Yeah, I don't mean to say to just sit and wait for the stadium to be built to judge things. I think at least half the reason they even publicly put the images out was to get feedback on them. I'm just saying that because something isn't there today doesn't mean it won't be there when it's all said and done.
You’re 100% right that to get the pieces we really need Melendez. It’s one for the offseason I’m sure. But your article today goes into it a little bit even. They need more talent. Plain and simple. Yes, it is entirely possible they get some guys from the far to contribute…but it doesn’t appear like the high end talent is coming up right now because it all graduated. So the big pieces to get better back are really Singer, Perez, Melendez in my eyes. How much you can get back for those three is a big key in or if you move them. But they certainly need some creative ways to get more talent back yet.
I don’t love the “competitive” spin on things but I get it. The broadcast needs something to talk about and technically it is true. I just think it can be a little misleading when they are still on pace as a 64 win team with the winning percentage the second half. But as you pointed out, its with no bullpen. I guess I’m just meh on it but you do have to start somewhere. So I guess that is good.
My thought on the "competitive" games is that it's all about context. Why are they competitive? In this case, it's because they're scoring runs, particularly late, pitching well enough in the early innings (they're middle of the pack in starter ERA since the break and have the fourth lowest walk rate) and having to endure stressful late innings every single night. How likely is that to be fixed? Among year-over-year changes, bullpens are the easiest. Easiest doesn't mean there's any sort of guarantee, but if your biggest issue is the bullpen, that's the one spot that you feel like you can fix in a single offseason. Again, I'm not saying they're a bullpen away from competing for a playoff spot, though the AL Central helps, but it's part of the conversation at least.
But they need to be smart. I'm fully convinced Salvy is going to the White Sox if the Dayton Moore rumors are true. Okay, so go get Jake Eder or Nick Nastrini and others, but get Gregory Santos too. Send Melendez to the Marlins. Get back whatever prospects you want and get Andrew Nardi too. You know the names don't really matter here, but that's the idea behind it. Add in a big league bullpen arm to these deals to put new guys with McMillon, Hernandez, Cox, a free agent signing and suddenly you feel a lot better. I don't know. It just feels like there's a path to 75-78 wins, even if it's not the likeliest path.
What are these DM rumors? I don’t understand the White Sox and it frustrates me we aren’t as good as them. Lol. Why were they ever interested in Salvy to begin with? I get Grafol, but come on…why are you trading for a 33 year old catcher even if you cut his 20m salary in half? White Sox man. Miami I get, Sox never really understood that one.
I should also add, that they were looking to add him while they sucked. That’s a big key. Lol
I never got it either and I still don't get it from a team standpoint, but if they have Dayton and Grifol? It's over. I haven't heard anything from anyone on it, but I was really good at connecting the dots as a kid and I think that skill carries over.
Is DM really that sought after a commodity? I don’t get it. He had a good run, I’m not saying he didn’t but a little bit of research and reading between the lines on owners comments even this year should scare anyone off.
This is actually quite fascinating if it happens. I’m not sure I’ve seen something like it.
You have one team, who fired him, basically kept everyone else, and is saying it’s all DM’s fault. If the White Sox hire him after not even a year, you have a IN DIVISION team basically saying, we don’t think it is all his fault, we need him to run this ship.
All I know, we better be the team that is right. Lol. Wow, that’s crazy.
I can tell you that firing Dayton was not wrong. I mean the Rangers have been successful with him. Doesn't mean the Royals weren't right.
I have no idea. Maybe the culture issue is something that they really think he can fix?
Why DM? It looks like Chris Gets [edit: Getz - thanks autocorrect) is going to be promoted before the end of the season, and it's believed he would bring in his old friend DM to join him. Here's a pretty good summary from The Athletic on Wednesday:
"In the Sox’s press release that included a Reinsdorf statement, they hinted that it would be an internal (or familiar) hire when they noted that they expected this “single decision-maker to lead the baseball operations department” to be “in place by the end of the season.”
That doesn’t leave a lot of time for interviews. So it’ll likely be Getz, who is generally well liked and could conceivably do a fine job shaking things up but hasn’t really accomplished anything to deserve this job besides being here."
So...just like when he was here.
We can only hope the Dayton Moore GM tree takes root in the Southside and keeps that franchise stuck in purgatory.
Had not heard the rumors of DM to the White Sox. That seems really strange to me. I am old enough that I will probably never go to a game in the new stadium, but just from the two videos I much prefer the look of the Clay County stadium .Too bad the teams won't build their own stadiums though. There is not a lot good talent on the free agent market this winter, is there? Maybe they can sneak out of Seattle with one game!!!!
I've only seen it from Bob Nightengale, so take it with a grain of salt, but apparently he and Chris Getz are still extremely close, so if Getz is promoted to GM, it sort of adds up I guess.
> I also think it’s important to stress that these are renderings and I was told by someone who I think is in the know that you shouldn’t spend too much time nitpicking each individual detail. A lot can change with that.
Sure, but later when they unveil the final drawings and it has no crown vision and one measly fountain they tell us that it's too late.
Raise a fuss now! This is a cheap and soulless design for a stadium.
Yeah, I don't mean to say to just sit and wait for the stadium to be built to judge things. I think at least half the reason they even publicly put the images out was to get feedback on them. I'm just saying that because something isn't there today doesn't mean it won't be there when it's all said and done.
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