Very good analysis. The Royals should offer him somewhere in the low 60's. They have several other players to extend as well. Whitt, Jr, hasn't been extended to my knowledge. MJ may be worth locking up as well as either Pasquantino or Pratto. Then there are Lynch and Bubic . A lot of decisions to be made, but they should consider their window of opportunity as starting next year and running for 4 years beyond that if they can't secure some of these guys for longer.
I’d be down for extending Singer at this point. Don’t really care what it costs as it plants a flag in the ground (probably already have done that with all the young guys). I thought i heard Soren…maybe it was with you on I don’t recall, that this FO isn’t going to be around anyway if it doesn’t work. The bigger question, that we can’t really answer, is would Singer do it?
Because, he’s a first round pick. I don’t know that money is as huge a factor. Don’t get me wrong, he wants to get paid, but I mean he should have some first round money to lean on. Maybe what I’m trying to say is he has the ability to bet on himself with a little change in his pocket already. Give it another year or two to see if the Royals will actually be any good. I’m pretty sure the Royals are gong to have to be paying the bad team tax on its OWN FREAKIN PLAYERS extensions. Lol.
I was looking at some of the bigger (more than 2 years) extensions this last year to see how many were on good teams going into the year -
Clase - 5yr/20M - good team
Ramirez - 5yr - good team
Hayes - 8yr/70M - Pit (bad team) - give royals hope
Kyle Freeland - 5yr/64M (bad team) - CO, lol
Alvarez - 6yr/115m - good team
Ashby - 5yr/20 m - good team
Riley 10yr/212 m - good team
Musgrove - 5yr/100m - good team
Analysis - IDK - Most of these are good teams but the Pirates and the Rockies were able to get some done. I’m sure its all just dependents on the player and his individual situation. But 75% of these are so are good teams to begin with. Maybe the royals have a win a little first?
I'm absolutely supportive of making extension offers to some of the crew at this point. Brady, Witt, and Melendez would be where I would start. If Sherman is serious about creating a strong core of players to build around, I think we really need to invest in them. I don't think we have to be crazy about it, and some creative incentive bonuses would be useful to reward the kind of performance we would expect to see from them. Use those contracts to let other guys know what they can expect if they continue their development. We can't lock in everyone, but we do need to be thinking about how to build to sustain, not just to compete for a year or two, and then return to .400 ball again.
The most Royals thing to happen would be for them to give him a deal that treats his last year of arbitration as a free-agent year since he was really close to the line and hey, it doesn't cost anything to be nice. Also, they would fully not recognize the irony of that statement.
I definitely think they should lock him up at the 60 to 70 mark. Then they have to follow with Witt and Melendez. Those 3 would make a great core to build around. On a totally unrelated topic. Don't you think Pratto need sent down to Omaha for a while. He looks totally lost at the plate. Great writing David, as usual.
The Hunter Dozier extension makes me skeptical of the Royals handing out big contracts to players who have had only one good season. Dozier hasn't been the same after he signed that contract and is regressing again this year. Salvy Perez had the career season last year but can he stay healthy and come anything close to that again? Sure, Singer has obviously turned a corner, but can he pitch like this for a full season? He hasn't won even 10 games yet (though he may get there this year). I say let's see what he does for a full season next year and if he can win 15 games or something like that, then extend him.
Gotta admit, my first reflex is to say that whatever is best for the Royals, we can be certain they won't do it. Then I have to remind myself that 2014-15 really did happen. Whether it was luck or baseball genius in the front office, or some combination of the two, I'll leave up to others.
So I do have a certain amount of hope that the saga of Singer will end well both for him and the Royals. But I ain't bettin' the ranch on it.
Looks like Matheny is at least trying to give Hernandez and Keller a chance to be more than 1-inning guys out of the bullpen. I fully approve of the experiment. It's not as if these games mean much anyway, other than as opportunities for player evaluation and development.
My gut tells me that Hernandez has a better chance to succeed in that 2 or 3-inning role than Keller does. Then again, coming out of spring training my gut told me that Lynch and Hernandez had the best chances to do well among all the young starters.
Very good analysis. The Royals should offer him somewhere in the low 60's. They have several other players to extend as well. Whitt, Jr, hasn't been extended to my knowledge. MJ may be worth locking up as well as either Pasquantino or Pratto. Then there are Lynch and Bubic . A lot of decisions to be made, but they should consider their window of opportunity as starting next year and running for 4 years beyond that if they can't secure some of these guys for longer.
I’d be down for extending Singer at this point. Don’t really care what it costs as it plants a flag in the ground (probably already have done that with all the young guys). I thought i heard Soren…maybe it was with you on I don’t recall, that this FO isn’t going to be around anyway if it doesn’t work. The bigger question, that we can’t really answer, is would Singer do it?
Because, he’s a first round pick. I don’t know that money is as huge a factor. Don’t get me wrong, he wants to get paid, but I mean he should have some first round money to lean on. Maybe what I’m trying to say is he has the ability to bet on himself with a little change in his pocket already. Give it another year or two to see if the Royals will actually be any good. I’m pretty sure the Royals are gong to have to be paying the bad team tax on its OWN FREAKIN PLAYERS extensions. Lol.
I was looking at some of the bigger (more than 2 years) extensions this last year to see how many were on good teams going into the year -
Clase - 5yr/20M - good team
Ramirez - 5yr - good team
Hayes - 8yr/70M - Pit (bad team) - give royals hope
Kyle Freeland - 5yr/64M (bad team) - CO, lol
Alvarez - 6yr/115m - good team
Ashby - 5yr/20 m - good team
Riley 10yr/212 m - good team
Musgrove - 5yr/100m - good team
Analysis - IDK - Most of these are good teams but the Pirates and the Rockies were able to get some done. I’m sure its all just dependents on the player and his individual situation. But 75% of these are so are good teams to begin with. Maybe the royals have a win a little first?
We are at a large enough sample size that I would want him to be my co anchor of the rotation for the next 3-4 years and be the GUY for another 4.
Go Big 8/100
Also....I really want to see a trade this off-season that'll have to include some of these rookies that just graduated.
Time to shit or get off the pot with Daytons regime.
I'm absolutely supportive of making extension offers to some of the crew at this point. Brady, Witt, and Melendez would be where I would start. If Sherman is serious about creating a strong core of players to build around, I think we really need to invest in them. I don't think we have to be crazy about it, and some creative incentive bonuses would be useful to reward the kind of performance we would expect to see from them. Use those contracts to let other guys know what they can expect if they continue their development. We can't lock in everyone, but we do need to be thinking about how to build to sustain, not just to compete for a year or two, and then return to .400 ball again.
The most Royals thing to happen would be for them to give him a deal that treats his last year of arbitration as a free-agent year since he was really close to the line and hey, it doesn't cost anything to be nice. Also, they would fully not recognize the irony of that statement.
I definitely think they should lock him up at the 60 to 70 mark. Then they have to follow with Witt and Melendez. Those 3 would make a great core to build around. On a totally unrelated topic. Don't you think Pratto need sent down to Omaha for a while. He looks totally lost at the plate. Great writing David, as usual.
The Hunter Dozier extension makes me skeptical of the Royals handing out big contracts to players who have had only one good season. Dozier hasn't been the same after he signed that contract and is regressing again this year. Salvy Perez had the career season last year but can he stay healthy and come anything close to that again? Sure, Singer has obviously turned a corner, but can he pitch like this for a full season? He hasn't won even 10 games yet (though he may get there this year). I say let's see what he does for a full season next year and if he can win 15 games or something like that, then extend him.
Gotta admit, my first reflex is to say that whatever is best for the Royals, we can be certain they won't do it. Then I have to remind myself that 2014-15 really did happen. Whether it was luck or baseball genius in the front office, or some combination of the two, I'll leave up to others.
So I do have a certain amount of hope that the saga of Singer will end well both for him and the Royals. But I ain't bettin' the ranch on it.
I think you nailed it. The framework is the Danny Duffy extension (5/65), adjusted for inflation.
Did you just see what the Mariners are doing with Rodriguez
How horrifying is it that it's near the end of August, and MJ leads the team with 48 bleepin' walks!?!? He's on pace for....what? .... maybe 60-ish?
With 600 PA's Pratto would be on pace for 68 walks, Vinnie for 66. What's that you said? The other youngsters? You're not serious, right?
I know, I've had a third of a century to get used to it by now. But still sometimes it really bugs the hell out of me!
Looks like Matheny is at least trying to give Hernandez and Keller a chance to be more than 1-inning guys out of the bullpen. I fully approve of the experiment. It's not as if these games mean much anyway, other than as opportunities for player evaluation and development.
My gut tells me that Hernandez has a better chance to succeed in that 2 or 3-inning role than Keller does. Then again, coming out of spring training my gut told me that Lynch and Hernandez had the best chances to do well among all the young starters.